Post Pandemic And The Now

Recently we've partnered with Suzanne York from Humans Optimized and she recently interviewed us (Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman) for her podcast. We want to share that interview here as well!"The Enneagram Panels Podcast" is now "The Art of Growth." Check out our work and keep in touch at www.theartofgrowth.org to find out about Enneagram coaching, corporate training, relationship coaching, and our upcoming online test.Email us thoughts and questions!Support the show