PsychEd Episode 43: Psychedelic-Assisted Psychotherapy with Dr. Emma Hapke and Dr. Daniel Rosenbaum
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Welcome to PsychEd, the psychiatry podcast for medical learners, by medical learners. This episode covers psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy with Dr Emma Hapke and Dr Daniel Rosenbaum, both of whom are psychiatrists at the University Health Network in Toronto and co-founders of UHN’s Nikean Psychedelic Psychotherapy Research Centre (in addition to being lecturers in the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Toronto). The learning objectives for this episode are as follows: By the end of this episode, you should be able to… Briefly describe the history of psychedelics in psychiatry List the four classes of psychedelic drugs and their mechanism of action Summarize the evidence regarding psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy for various psychiatric disorders Discuss patient selection considerations for psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy Describe the safety, tolerability and possible side effects of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy Understand how a psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy session is practically carried out Guests: Dr Emma Hapke and Dr Daniel Rosenbaum Hosts: Dr Chase Thompson (PGY4), Dr Nikhita Singhal (PGY3), Jake Johnston (CC4), and Annie Yu (CC4) Audio editing by: Nikhita Singhal Show notes by: Nikhita Singhal Interview Content: Introduction - 0:00 Learning objectives - 02:47 Definitions/categories of psychedelics - 03:24 Classic psychedelics - 04:15 Empathogens (e.g. MDMA) - 07:15 Etymology of the term “psychedelic” - 09:30 Ketamine - 12:24 Iboga - 13:28 Brief history of psychedelic medicine - 17:51 Current evidence and ongoing trials - 27:38 MDMA and PTSD - 29:26 Psilocybin and treatment-resistant depression - 32:24 A word of caution - 34:29 End-of-life care - 38:47 Practical aspects of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy sessions - 45:45 Safety considerations - 01:04:04 Future directions - 01:10:33 Closing comments - 01:19:07 Resources: Books: How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence (Michael Pollan) The Doors of Perception (Aldous Huxley) The Human Encounter With Death (Stanislav Grof and Joan Halifax) Brainwashed podcast series (CBC): https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/440-brainwashed Zendo Project (psychedelic peer support): https://zendoproject.org Nikean Psychedelic Psychotherapy Research Centre: https://www.uhn.ca/MentalHealth/Research/Nikean-Psychedelic-Psychotherapy-Research-Centre California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS): https://www.ciis.edu Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS): https://maps.org PsychEd Episode 27 - Serotonin Pharmacology: From SSRIs to Psychedelics with Dr Robin Carhart-Harris) PsychEd Episode 34 - Ketamine for Treatment-Resistant Depression with Dr Sandhya Prashad References: Carhart-Harris R, Giribaldi B, Watts R, et al. 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