Spring creator and cofounder, Dr. Rod Johnson

In this wide-ranging interview, I finally sit down one-on-one and talk to Dr. Rod Johnson, the creator of Spring, entrepreneur, venture capitalist, engineer, father, Kotlin fan, AI researcher, and musician, about this, that, and everything in between, fresh off our recent SpringOne presentation on Spring AI with Spring AI founder Dr. Mark Pollack. This is an extra special, extra-long episode!