Friend, fellow Spring Developer Advocate, Kotlin Google Developer Expert, and Java Champion, Mark Heckler

Hi, Spring fans! Welcome to another installment of _A Bootiful Podcast_! This week, [Josh Long (@starbuxman)](https://twitter.com/starbuxman) talks to his friend, fellow Spring Developer Advocate, Kotlin Google Developer Expert, Java Champion: [Mark Heckler (@mkheck)](https://twitter.com/mkheck). Mark has also just written a well-recommended book from O'Reilly called _Spring Boot: Up and Running_.