“How Can We All Make it into the Future?” Episode #34: Kabage Karanja and Stella Mutegi moderated by Gabriel Kozlowski

In this episode of '74PODCAST Series "How Can We All Make it into the Future?", founders of Cave Bureau, Kabage Karanja and Stella Mutegi talk to Gabriel Kozlowski, architect and assistant curator for the 17th International Architecture Exhibition – La Biennale di Venezia 2021, about colonialism in relation to the current social and political climate, the rich history of caves in Kenya, the ways how their project categorization resemble the lifecycle of a Kenyan as well as their work at Anthropocene Museum.