"How Can We All Make it into the Future?" -Episode #18: Pınar Yoldaş in conversation with Gabriel Kozlowski

In the latest episode of '74PODCAST Series "How Can We All Make it into the Future?", Pınar Yoldaş, professor and all-in-one designer, whose works deal with art, neuroscience, and ecology through the lens of speculative fiction, and Gabriel Kozlowski, architect researching and teaching at MIT, and Assistant Curator for the 17th International Architecture Exhibition – La Biennale di Venezia 2020, talk about eco-nihilism and environmental recovery while questioning the commitment of the artist to the society in the post-pandemic world.